We describe two new Eulerian Rankin-Selberg integrals, using the same Eisenstein series defined on the group E8, and cuspidal representations from GL5 and GSpin11, respectively. Connections with past work of Ginzburg, Bump-Ginzburg, Jiang-Rallis and others are described. We give some details of how to relate our two integrals via formal manipulations. It is a fact of classical invariant theory ...